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Old 15-06-2015, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: Imprinting the Old way.

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You will find, if you check, that most knowledgable modern imprinters tether downies for short supervised daily periods once they can walk, but before they can bate hard. They run less risk to bone or feather than tethering after penning, and they very soon learn the restrictions of the tether. This produces a steady block bird less likely to bate in later life than if introduced older.

Bowl feeding is just one way to do it. I have found it is what happens once training starts that decides whether a bird is going to be a decently behaved imprint or not, bowl feeding, or finger feeding matters not a jot.

Have you successfully imprinted many birds?

Marion

I have imprinted several, Harris Hawks that I used to breed, and was the first in Ontario to do so, raised Prairie Falcon imprints ,Red tails, and Sharpies.

At no point am I an expert, or do I claim to be, but after talking to many people, doing research on what works and the reason it does, with a bit of experimentation I developed the method I use.

Please remember here we are not talking Falcon Mills of mass production but a hobby breeder. This is what works for me, but maybe not for you.

I've had imprints scared of heights, had others follow you around the house like a puppy and enjoy watching TV, but eerr, the problem is of course the poops & wife problem LOL.

Had imprinted Prairies bowing and chirping in their first year well before December, bred Harris Hawks in January, eggs froze so no point. You can breed Harris all year around if you want, but try to incubate the eggs or find decent homes, for them. If you breed for cash the home issue isn't a problem is it ?

Only ever had one screamer, that an adult FM Harris fixed for me,
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I am always reading about not the carrying the chicks initially. I have my 20 day old spar in a fish tank with astro turf inside. How am I supposed to take him out to roam around and play if I don't pick him up?
Support the feet, then move slowly to where you want him.

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And also, whilst at this stage, imprinting has yet to take place so the manner in which it is moved has no bearing.
I disagree, the bird may not see as you say, but definitely feels the movement not forgetting it, will connect that movement later with hands. Young birds who cant see as you say, will use reflex or instinctive grabbing with the feet, not all but many do. They don't have to see to learn, that's why they have ears.
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Perhaps that's why so many don't want imprints to fly.
Its not the bird, its how it is raised and what environment. I never raised a lone imprint they were always raised in 2+ batches on the floor in the busiest part of the house, while being able to see out as to what was going on. Full crops always, full feed dish, taught to look down for food not up for hand feeding. Worked for me with mega imprints. Yes when they got older as branchers could hop out and attack you feet
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With my early branchers I would take out of sight from the other, placed a distance from me, then lightly call on the whistle have them coming to a well garnished glove. Soon you don't have time for the whistle (could use a lure too) . One thing that is a mistake by many with imprints is cutting them in weight too low too fast (nasty things can happen if you do this). Rather you want to cut very slowly measuring response. Again worked for me, maybe not for you and I was only imprinting max 6 at a time. I found that these birds would breed naturally or do the imprint thing.
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I had a FHH that I raised from hatching, had 3 assorted terriers, Jack Russell, Russell/miniature Dash hound and a schnauzer, that formed the team. Each of the dogs had unique attributes, but a team needs to practise. So early one September we went out, not for serious hunting, but to start them on track. We came to a say 1/3 of a lot of water, the sun was shining down. What did my bird do ? Ya decided to have a bathe, so flying was done for the day. I laid down watching her bathe, then fell asleep. I awoke later staring into the eyes of my HH laying on my chest all comfy, while a dog under each arm and my crotch. One of my best memories.
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