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Old 07-02-2015, 04:41 PM
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Default Harris X goss hybrid

All tho i am new to falconry i have hunted since i could walk
mainly in the running dog world

So i ask has anyone seen or worked a harris/goss hybrid
what is their temperament like are they game ? or do you just end up with a mutt ? or am i looking at things in the wrong way ?

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Old 07-02-2015, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: Harris X goss hybrid

Here's a link for you.

Http://www.falconryforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=116077
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Old 07-02-2015, 08:12 PM
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Default Re: Harris X goss hybrid

Not sure what to make of that thread tho lol

im wondering whether you would get hh temperament
goss gameness with a little more turn of speed then the hh
if crossed the right birds the right way

But thanks for the link Sam
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Old 07-02-2015, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: Harris X goss hybrid

It would be a poor substitute for a Gos
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Old 07-02-2015, 09:00 PM
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It would be a poor substitute for a Gos
And more then likely ruin a good Harris
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Old 07-02-2015, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: Harris X goss hybrid

what makes you both say it would ruin a gos or the hh ?

why wouldnt you get best of both worlds speed and gameness of the gos
temperament of the hh

as i say i am new to the falconry side of hunting
and know that some crosses out perform pure breds hands down
in the field


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Old 07-02-2015, 09:44 PM
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what makes you both say it would ruin a gos or the hh ?

why wouldnt you get best of both worlds speed and gameness of the gos
temperament of the hh

as i say i am new to the falconry side of hunting
and know that some crosses out perform pure breds hands down
in the field


cheers

Doug
Look Doug, they are both fantastic at what they do and are worlds apart in their ability, why would one want to cross them
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Old 07-02-2015, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: Harris X goss hybrid

As you say Sean they are very good at what they do in their own world

but i ask why cant you have the best of both worlds ?

can i ask do you work your birds with a dog ?


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Default Re: Harris X goss hybrid

It has been tried Doug. The results were not good. Hawks developing sight issues. I spoke to someone that flew one of these (A Maltese chap). He said that it was worse than the worst Gos he has flown and equally worse than a Harris! He said the temprement was not that of a Gos nor a HH it was inbetween the two which was not ideal .... It was a twittering wreck. What we must try to remember is that if you want something between a HH and a Goshawk then Mother Nature has already put something in place for you... The Redtail is a perfect inbetweener! Can be as aggressive as any Gos, is faster than a Harris etc etc.....

Better results were seen with the Buzzard X Goshawk at least in the 'health' sense. Heaven knows why anyone would want to do that though!

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Old 08-02-2015, 03:47 PM
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What we must try to remember is that if you want something between a HH and a Goshawk then Mother Nature has already put something in place for you... The Redtail is a perfect inbetweener! Can be as aggressive as any Gos, is faster than a Harris etc etc....
I always thought the Harris had the initial speed but the Red Tail has the endurance?
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